homework 50

Gatto
Gatto is talk about what he has found school to be. About how he thinks that schoolteaching is wrapped up into 6 lessons that teaches students to become and realize their role in life. The idea that there are classes above and below us. That we are scared to try and reach that higher level classes but work hard enough so that we are not placed in the lower level class. To think that if we have a higher education we will get the better good. And we never really notice the difference in life because we rush through things so that we can get to the next step. And we really have no really say over our own lifes. That someone else is always making our decisions for us.

I feel that what he is saying is true. In life we go through not really thinking about why we want to get to the next step all we think about is who else is going to be on that step and how does that make me look. We try so hard to think that we run our lifes when the truth is that everyone else controls us. For a while it is your parents, then it is your teachers, then your boss, friends, emenies. And we are so busy try to prove that we control our selves and get to the next step that we do not sit and realize that things are different, and that we never really learned something for us but everyone else.

Freire
Freire talks about the relationship between the teacher and the student. He also talks about how there is a banking concept of education, and that in the banking concept of education knowledge is the key. That "knowledge is a gift bestowed by those who consider themselves knowledgeable upon those whom they consider to know nothing." And that this concepts are in teaching as well as in the banking education:
(a) the teacher teaches and the students are taught;

(b) the teacher knows everything and the students know nothing;

(c) the teacher thinks and the students are thought about;

(d) the teacher talks and the students listen — meekly;

(e) the teacher disciplines and the students are disciplined;

(f) the teacher chooses and enforces his choice, and the students comply;

(g) the teacher acts and the students have the illusion of acting through the action of the teacher;

(h) the teacher chooses the program content, and the students (who were not consulted) adapt to it;

(i) the teacher confuses the authority of knowledge with his or her own professional authority, which she and he sets in opposition to the freedom of the students;

(j) the teacher is the Subject of the learning process, while


I feel that in ways this is true but not right. A student should learn from their teachers as well as teachers should learn their students. Just because you have knowledge on something does not mean you can't learn more about that topic or in life. Nor do I feel that "knowledge is a gift bestowed by those who consider themselves knowledgeable upon those whom they consider to know nothing." I feel that by saying that you think that because you have knowledge on something you are better then someone who doesn't which is never true.

Delpit
She is talking about how African Americans don't go far in school. That as parents and teachers we are not aware of kids not really knowing what they should now, and when we do find out it is to late to really help them without holding them back in life. that we must all be there ofr each other and that we must work together to get the the next step. She also talks about how she tries different ways to help them learn with out holding the other students back.

I feel that as a African American there is lot of us not really learning and not really doing what we have to do to make it in life. we always do things that let us just make it or just sliding by. I also feel that there is no really way to have to students that are on 2 different levels in the same class to really learn. Because the student that is a head will feel like he is being pulled back while the student that is behind will feel like they are get rush to do stuff. I also feel that as an African American we do need more teachers and parents to really be around to help us get to the place that we need to be.

Copland
Copland was talking about how he never saw a difference in how andy teaches to how he teaches.He feels that in a way they are both teaching us the same thing but are going about it in different ways. He talked about how we should be taught immanence and transcendence. That we should be taught about the past and the future. And that he teaches to show that even though we are different we are really the same. And last that he feels as teacher he is always learning and that he teaches his students as well as as learn from them.

I feel that what Copland was saying was something that I feel that not every teachers says but all the teachers at SOF say. I feel that in SOF teachers try to teach us so that we do go far in life and so that we are not lost people like everyone makes us seem. I feel that as a teacher he really tries to get to his students with out coming off as if he is saving them.